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DENVER, SOUTH PARK and PACIFIC RAILROAD
DSP&P Coaches #2 -- 5, 7, 9 -- 22, 24, 27 -- 28

DSP&P's 23 coaches came from several sources across the first ten years of the railway's life. They ranged from 34 to 42 feet in length and most lasted well into the C&S era, with some rebuilds along the way. The variety of the window treatments are the most distinguishing characteristic of these cars. Roof lines varied but became uniformly bullnose style  sometime after delivery.

Sources: Mid-Continent Railway Museum website.

DSP&P U.P. 1885 DL&G 1889 C&S 1899 C&S 1906
#2 "Denver" Burned 1880 Gone Gone Gone
#2 (2nd) #55 Gone 1887 Gone Gone
#3 "Geneva" #63 #63 #160 #56
#4 "Halls Valley" #64 #64 #157 #77
#5 "Leadville" #65 #65 #159 #57
#7 "Como" #56 #56 #154 / 129 #28 / 99382
#9 #57 #57 / 708 #128 #29
#10 #58 #58 / 709 Gone 1898 Gone
#11 -- 15 Outfit #50 -- 54 Gone Gone Gone
#16 #59 #59 #155 #50
#17 #60 #60 #156 #51
#18 #68 #68 #163 #79
#19 #69 #69 Gone Gone
#20 #66 #66 #162 #78
#21 #57 #67 #161 #59
#22 #61 #61 #157 #52
#24 #62 Gone Gone Gone
#27 #70 #70 #164 #80
#28 #71 #71 #165 #81

 

DSP&P.

#2

#3-5

#7

#9-10

#11-15

#16-24

#18-21

#27-28

Build
Date

1874

1878

1879

1880

1876

1879

1880

1884

By

Hall-ack

B&S

DSP

DSP

NYER

Bow-ers

Pull
man

Pull

man

Length
Over
End Sills

34'9"

40'5"

40'4"

42-0"

30'0"

35'0"

42"0"

42'0"

Length

Over Buffers

39'8"

48'0"

45'7"

47'0"

35'0"

42'6"

49'5"

49'6"

Truck Center

24'3"

30'6"

30'2"

31'10"

??

25'0"

27'4"

27'4"

Truck Wheel
base

5'0"

 5'0"

 5'0"

 5'0"

 5'0"

 5'0"

 6'0"

5'6"

Width

7'7"

8'0"

8'0"

8'0"

8'10"

8'0"

8'2"

8'2"

Height

Body

8'11"

9'0"

9'2"

8'11"

??

8'11"

9'0"

9'0"

Body Above

Rails

37"

37"

37"

37"

37"

36"

39"

39"

Wheel Size

24"

24"

24"

24"

24"

26"

26"

24"

Weight
 Tons

13

15

17

??

8

17

20

20

HISTORY
The first coach, DSP&P #2 "Denver" arrived in 1874 along with DSP&P #1 "Auraria", a combine. There are no photos of these in their early years, but combine #1 survived into the C&S era and a folio drawing shows it to be 34' 9" feet over the body end sills. There were 12 windows to a side with 11 rows of seats, probably 2+1 configuration.

Coaches 3, 4, and  5 were built in 1878 by Barney and Smith. #4 was reported to be a combine but was a coach by 1885. They were named "Geneva", "Halls Valley", and "Leadville", and were 40 feet over the end sills. These cars had 14 windows with 2+2 seating.

DSP&P #7 "Como" had 15 windows and 2+2 seating. Built by the DSP&P in 1879. It was converted to a combine in the C&S era. Cars #9 and 10 were built by the DSP&P shops in 1880 and had similar window layout. These were 42 foot cars while #7 was 40 feet over the body. Both were rebuilt into combines by the DL&G in 1892.

DSP&P #11 through 15 and 2nd #2 were short 35 footers obtained from the New York Elevated Railway. Built by Gilbert, Bush around 1876, they were 8' 10" wide, had center doors as well as end platforms, and were about half the weight of a normal NG car. They didn't last long and all were assigned as outfit cars by 1885 and gone by 1889. There are no photos or plans of these cars.

Coaches 16, 17, and 22 through 25 were purchased from ATSF in 1880. #23 and 25 were immediately converted to combines. Originally built in 1879 by Bowers Dure, they had 13 small windows and were only 35 feet over the body end sills.

Coaches #18 through 21 were 1880 Pullman products, 42 feet over end sills, with 15 windows and large observation windows on both end walls. These were sheathed over by 1885. Baggage-RPO cars #43 and 44 were part of the same order from Pullman.

DSP&P #27 and 28 came from Pullman in 1884. #27 had 14 windows and #28 had 15, but both were 42 feet over end sills.

 


DSP&P #5 "Leadville", a Bachmann kit with custom paint and lettering, and DSP&P #16, an LGB model with a black roof and number plaque, as they appear on the author's large scale outdoor railway. Both cars are short by a couple of windows.

 

PHOTO GALLERY

 


DSP&P #3 "Geneva" after 1885, renumbered as #63.


DSP&P #4 "Halls Valley" as a coach after 1885, renumbered as #64.

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DSP&P #5 "Leadville" after 1885, renumbered as #65 (left) with #64 at the right.


DSP&P #7 "Como" after 1885, renumbered as #56.

Window Detail on DSP&P #7 ==>


DSP&P #9 well before 1885; later it became #57.


DSP&P #10, after renumbering to #58.


DSP&P #16 around 1880, one of six purchased from AT&SF; note white letterboard and dark lettering, and fancy paneling below windows.


Probably DSP&P #24 about the same time. Cars 17 and 22 would look the same as these two cars. #23 and 26 were converted to combines before being placed in service.

One of DSP&P's Pullman coaches #18 -- 21; note large observation windows (on both ends) and fancy paneling below windows.

DSP&P #27 after 1885, renumbered as #70 (left). Other car is CC #11 or 12.

 

 

FOLIOS and PLANS
This plan by John Maxwell shows DSP&P #9 as delivered with large number plaque. He notes that the car was built by Pullman in 1886; other sources say 1879 at DSP&P shops, but possibly from a Pullman kit.  
 

DSP&P Coach #9

 

These two plans Show DSP&P #3 "Geneva" and the Bowers, Dure cars acquired from the AT&SF as they appeared on the C&S after 1899.

 

DSP&P Parlour - Chair Car #3 "Geneva", later #63

 

DSP&P Coaches #16, 17, 22, 24  Bowers and Dure (ex AT&SF 1875)
Acquired 1880,  #23 and #25 rebuilt to Combines 1880




 

The folios below are from around 1906, so some allowance must be made for rebuilds and windows sheathed over adjacent to stoves and toilets. Compare the folio below of DSP&P #3 with the plan of the same car shown above.